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oh and that's why you know I think that

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you know we want to cover the Michael

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Jackson situation but we want to cover

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it as one of many examples of this Oh

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so Bryan Singer III bring him up I have

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personal experience I worked out with a

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woman whose kid was his date when she

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would when he was 13 now he didn't tell

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his mother my friend and I did she's to

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put him on the treadmill next to us when

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he was off school on vacation or in the

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summer so she could do yoga class and we

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were her acquaintances at the gym so we

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would be on either side and we'd keep

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him contained you know because so he

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wouldn't wander off get kidnapped and he

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started telling us about his boyfriend

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in school so I'm thinking little kid in

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school Jorge because he's 13 maybe a 15

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year old oh no I'm going I'm going to

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Toronto to film x-men with my boyfriend

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was your boyfriend an actor oh no the

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director no this was news to the mom

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also uh-oh news we had to break it I

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have another girlfriend and literally we

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had to break it my husband is like you

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yelled at me at the time you should be

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ashamed of yourself for even not phoning

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the police on him in there he begged me

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not to and when he got to be 15 Bryan

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dumped him and asked him to go find

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younger boys for him and we talked him

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out of that one I said absolutely can't

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hear that happened you cannot do that

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but but mom did not go to the police I

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don't know if she did or not because

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suddenly nobody talked to us anymore

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I guess not going to the police because

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okay do I want to tangle my child in and

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further traumatize him to deal with

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police absolutely I mean he he had he

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didn't have a father at the time the

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father had passed and there was other

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things that were going on but that was

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my first-hand experience and I and it's

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interesting because he mirrored the

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reaction to the Michael Jackson

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documentary when Brian broke up with him

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he was actually crying to us and he was

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going across there was Mervyn's across

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the street at that time I remember it

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doesn't exist anymore and he was going

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to get two bathrobes because he'd spilt

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something on the bathrobes and he had to

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replace him Brian gave him money and he

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just was sobbing he's like he doesn't

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love me anymore and I'm like oh my god

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you thought he loved like I just I

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couldn't even I like I just wanted

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he had a father he did with no the

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father passed away yeah so just the mom

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and the mom is also in the industry and

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the mom isn't a different in the makeup

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part of the industry the dad had been a

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director now there's something with

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these directors going on out there I'm

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just gonna say that not all of them but

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a lot of them and because they have

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power they have huge power you know they

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write they produce they direct but yeah

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I'd never forgot it and then I happen to

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be weirdly so that the gym closed down

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another gym opened up there and we all

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went our separate ways and so two

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thousand thirteen or fourteen when the

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neck the Spanish boy brought up charges

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against Brian singer I happen to be at

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the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills walked

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right through I remember it cuz Justin

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Bieber fans were throwing themselves on

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the ground he was outside he's another

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one that's having a breakdown from that

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right now and if you interested I'll

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tell you what I got on that one but

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anyway Brian singer was there was a

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press conference charging another kid

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charging him but this person was adult

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and I actually was sitting there and my

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phone was blowing up everybody was

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seeing it on TV they're like oh my god

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don't you know so-and-so like this he

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just he's hundreds of people that he's

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abused and damaged they will have

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traumatic issues they will have drug

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problems and unless they acknowledge

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what happened they're gonna have drug

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problems they'll get married they'll

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have kids they'll either scream and yell

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at their kids or abuse your kids or

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destroy themselves if not turn around

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and abuse they don't always turn around

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and abuse though it's higher amendment